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Discussion in 'The Comp Buzz' started by deuces wild, Jan 30, 2019.
Clark have a snickers
429 K/AA Old Dude
Clark, same thing as bubba Charlie. I'd have to kill you if I told you the advantages......
Well right it down somewhere. I don’t want your old ass to forget it and then all the knowledge is lost forever.
429 K/AA Old Dude
That hurt Clark. I'm afraid I'm going to have to de-friend you.....
HOLY CRAP, Clark.. I woulda spit out my teeth iffin' I didn't know that you loved me all along...
And YES, SR-18 does suck... and I heard that even after several years of trying, they still can't test it... and that says a lot... y'all have no idea what you're runnin', other than what it says on the can... and you are right, Clark.. unless you're out to lunch on your tune up trying to make it work, you won't hurt anything with that monkey piss.. just sayin'...
429 K/AA Old Dude
Both you C's are out of your minds.. Of course I'm talking SR18 with fuel injection. Ya'll need to come into the 21st century. Lawn mowers have fuel injection for God's sake....
And all though I hear that the Rumor Mill is creakin' a weeeeeee bit, it did spit out some info that SR-18 was having some trouble passin' fuel check in Pomona AGAIN, and that Sunoco had to hit up a local retailer for a new batch.. how many seasons is it now??
And not to mention that the Top Fuelers got hit with a 2 to 3 hundred dollar a barrel increase over last year's prices.. this also affects the Top Alcohol guys running A-Fuel Dragster, a Sportsman Class...
But of course, you Kool Aid drinkin' NHRA guys never heard of such a thing, RIGHT??.. just sayin'...
SS/AH cars don't though. I think fastest pass in killer air was 8.210 with C25, -.054 under the current comp index. How much will SR18 affect the carbureted Hemi and how many tracks do we race in "Killer Air" ? Racing SS/AH in comp is akin to bringing a knife to a gun fight.
BOGUS indexes to begin with... I wonder who sat in on that meeting??
I heard it was you, Charlie!
Ramond do you see a carb on my motor. Come on man. And I can only speak for Sunoco Max Nos as being a terrible product. Haven’t tried sr 18 yet. But plan to this year.
429 K/AA Old Dude
Try it Clark, I think you will like it. I've really had no problems with it, other than older fuel reading low at fuel check. NEVER had any that didn't pass.
Yea I questioned index, and was told if I don't like it to just run ss , as comp guys don't have that option. was told index would be reviewed at in of the season. I only suggested to make a place for hemi cars in comp to help with low car counts, but even the fastest hemi cars will be ducks
yea nhra got this right. first car to run comp Eric Bell goes .006 under
Hey Clark Smiley, Shame you can't slip some of that VP Air Race into the tank...
That might get them scratching their heads at fuel check.
All Clark has to do is change pulleys and buy some head gaskets.
Wow I didn't realize how much the fords were helped this year. Skillman went 7.704 at Brandenton, .766 under this comp index at the NMCA event. Next closest non ford would have only been .536 under though!
Here is a link to the qualifying sheet if you are interested https://www.nmcadigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Doc-Mar-9-2019-9-23-PM-p1-1.jpg
yea fs cars could run competitively in comp but hemi cars are ducks, come on nhra
CRITERIA FOR YEAR END INDEX INCREASE:
When a review is requested, data will be evaluated by the Competition Eliminator Rules Sub- Committee and a minimum two-thirds vote is required to increase an Index. An Index that has been lowered through competition will not be considered for an increase unless there have subsequently been at least five quality entries and none have been capable of running at least .400 under the Index. The Index shall not be increased more than would be required for the quickest recent run to be more than .450 under the Index.
from the NHRA Racer site
I'm not thinking that ANY of the Hemi cars will hit that index.. so chopping a tenth off of it should be easy.. my question would be, WHO is on that committee??.. Comp racers or NON COMP RACERS??.. or, probably, NO RACERS...
I'm shaking my head over here at the irony. I've understood the challenge NHRA has been up against when establishing new classes and their respective indexes. With all the new technology and power adders, it's probably not as easy to set an index as most think. Hell, Bruno struggled with DD/AT for quite a while in the beginning. It wasn't until he really figured out the combo that people complained the index was too soft. When H, I, J Dragster were introduced there were all kinds of different thoughts and opinions as to what the indexes should be.
The point I'm making is this. With new technology and power adders being introduced into Comp, it makes a little sense that coming up with a proper index is a challenge. But for the super stock hemi cars? There is literally, 51 years worth of run data to gather and implement a fair index! This is not a new type of car with new technology where nobody really knows the potential it may have. These cars have been refined as hell over the years.
They could have just pulled the last five years worth of run data from the Hemi Challenge at Indy and used it as a baseline. Sure, the weather at Indy in August/September is worse than the weather at Gainesville in March or Pomona in February, but at least they would have been analyzing runs from all the heavy hitters who all have their shit set on kill. Could have started with these runs as their baseline and then tweaked from there.
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