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Discussion in 'The Comp Buzz' started by Comp 307, Sep 19, 2017.
Ignore the top part. That's cool!
Oh and for the record frank. I don't think anything y'all do really helps. Nhra is gonna do what they want. But thanks for the effort.
What did I ignore?
Yes but I think they are listening to a lot more.
Thanks. I’ll check that out.
Frank, I have no idea what you guys discuss or do in D1, or who voted you in in D1. But am I missing something because I was thanking Greg, not saying I want him voted out.
You aren’t sure why a rule should be in the rule book?
Carey, you should know your own index. There is no way that you should have been qualified on a 7.72 in mid August. I would guess that someone caught the error before 1st round . Keep after it and ask questions, you will learn the rules.
ps I did go back to DRC and I see that they corrected the ladder for first round.
This is from your post;
I think it would do the class good if the SRAC and NHRA would listen to the guys racing, rather than try to convince us why they think something is better and going to bring out new racers.
I never singled out Greg, I made a general statement in response to yours about you wishing the SRAC would listen to the racers instead of trying to convince us why they think something is better. I don't see any of us trying to convince anyone of anything other than getting out to race. I know I do and many of the other reps work hard at trying to get guys out racing.
Hahahahahaha....Frank, you are really grasping at straws now. You take one sentence out of a post to try and make your point.
What am I grasping at straws for?
That's not what I said. I said it's simply not possible to have a personal index slower than the class index. If it is, I want you to explain how. What happened to you was someone's screw up in the tower, not a rules issue. So we need a rule to avoid a clerical error?
This was a thread to voice our opinions. That's all I'm doing. It's just my opinion. I didn't know your personal couldn't be slower than the class index. How would I know that? I thought the whole reason for personal was for situations like this. Hell I haven't taken any "personal" this year. Yet I've watch my "class" index go from 7.72 to 7.58. So no, it doesn't make much sense to me on the whole personal vs. class index. And all I have heard is what other racers have told me. I've still yet to see that written anywhere.
So maybe I'm dumb, that's fine, but I'm just voicing my opinion.
Carey, your not dumb, and your too smart to make this post.
I started this thread with the desire to increase car count and/or fan support to keep Comp relevant to NHRA. My hope was to find out how people would watch more races, compete in more races with their ride, build a ride to compete…etc.
I was part of the shit show in Indy because YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOUR INDEX (not shouting with the caps - but that mistake is on you). You can figure out everything from seat belts to cubic inches and turbo size - but don't know your index?????
The index is readily available online (NHRA Racer) and PI is pretty simple - if you haven't taken any PI, the posted index is yours. For all that have taken PI, you can also find individual (that is PI) on the same site (as they will be below the posted index).
I would love to see you and your team race more in Comp. You have a great combination, desire and team. But man, if you can figure out what is legal in your engine combination - you can figure out your index (personal or otherwise).
I really don't have anything else to say.........except.
We are going to continue running Comp. We sold our beloved S2000, that we attempted to run in Comp and we bought this new Ness Pro Stock car last year. We purchased that car to be competitive. That was our commitment to racing Comp...haha. I still stand by my claims of it being confusing and hard to learn. But we will figure it out.
Problem with the new setup, chassis was awesome but we ran into engine issues as this new chassis wanted way more power. Every race we went to last year we blew up an engine. So that really put us into a tail spin into the off season mentally and financially. We figured some stuff out, tested early this year, blew up, figured some stuff out, then finally got everything together in time to make the 2nd Indy D3 race and US Nationals. We had planned a full season of D3 races, but as fellow Comp racers I'm sure you can relate to these types of issues and growing pains. We look forward to next year and in just those 2 races this year we learned a ton and a lot to work off of.
That said, there isn't a rule or thing that can be done or said that will keep us from racing Comp, I was just voicing my opinion in a thread where opinions were ask of.
Carey, here are the simple things you need to do for Comp.Do not worry about anyone else. Use qualifying as testing to set your car up to run .60 under your personal index. Do not run faster than .60 under your personal index. except if mineshaft race then setup to run .65 under your personal index. Cut a good light during eliminations. Do not lift early unless you are positive you have the round won. If it is semifinals or finals run it out the back door if you still have .10 personal to use up.
A former champion and current national points leader almost never takes index hit.
Have fun. Good luck at world cup at MDIR in november. May see you there.
I have to agree with Bruno. As all the Division 1 racers know, when we brought our car out for the first time, we were only able to MATCH our index. We worked our butts off and spent a lot of money making our car faster. We made slow progress until we went fast. When we finally had a fast car and could qualify in the top 5 we ended up trying to figure out how to slow it down for eliminations! We finally realized that what we thought was a performance based first one to the finish line class, was really a chess game of qualifying in the right spot in order to get easy rounds to save index. And as has been said by others what sport penalizes you for being fast during the event? We have pretty much given up on comp and have run Top Dragster. At least there if you go too fast one week you start over next time.
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