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rognelson777

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Evidently nhra promod is having car count problems because of Sandbagging by procharged cars. Stevie fast jackson has brought up the idea of qualifying points for each qualifying session. The idea is, racers will always be trying to be number 1 in each session because it could make the difference on winning championship. The idea is it will show how good a particular combination is.

My thought, if you qualify at more than .65 under it comes off your personal index, not the class index. Why, personal index was to bring in new cars that could not run the number, not benefit already fast racers.
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Jeff Childs said:
If you start taking index hits for qualifying runs too its going to cause much more sandbagging in comp qualifying than there already is.
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what reason for sandbagging in qualifying except for playing the ladder or keeping from mineshaft race?
 
Pro ladder will make everyone run it out too instead of everyone trying to pick their spot. I think it was the 90's for a year or 2 they did this.
 
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rognelson777 said:
what reason for sandbagging in qualifying except for playing the ladder or keeping from mineshaft race?
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It used to be is you went more than 60 under on any run you're index was hit .05 Monday morning. They changed this as a safety issue on index hits in qualifying.
 
Not sure if I'm reading this right.. "keeping from a mineshaft race".. doesn't a mineshaft race actually protect indexes??.. or am I reading that wrong too??..
 
We haven't been racing this class long enough, or aren't fast enough......but why would you want to stop a race from being mineshaft?

But I agree with the first point, I think there should be incentives for qualifying (i.e. the D4 WFO deal in qualifying is flat out awesome!). But in no way, shape or form should you get hit for how far you go under in qualifying. What's the point of having an incentive for qualifying but hit you if you go too fast. If you're fast, the CIC should eventually take care of it.....
 
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The mineshaft rule really only 'protects' the fastest guys. If you happen to be a mid-pack or worse qualifier (i.e.- the guys who typically determine if a given race is going to be a mineshaft), you're probably better off if the rule DOESN'T get triggered, as it just gives the fastest guys a "free" nickel to play with that day. So yes, 'avoiding a mineshaft' is something most probably think about.

I'd hate to see CIC penalties apply to qualifying, but would LOVE to see a pro ladder implemented. As it is now, if you're not 100% sure you can make the top half, you're really better off qualifying as close to the bottom as possible. Comp shouldn't be that way.
 
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Charlie Yannetti said:
Not sure if I'm reading this right.. "keeping from a mineshaft race".. doesn't a mineshaft race actually protect indexes??.. or am I reading that wrong too??..
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That is why it is called complicated eliminator. Many reasons to have a mineshaft race and many reasons not to have a mineshaft race. Eg Your car can run only .61 to .62 under, but not .65 you would not want a mineshaft race. OR your in the chase for points championship, you want your competitors to hurt their index in eliminations, so mineshaft allows them to run fast without hurting index.
 
I love all of the comments, Index system was based on fastest run by class. Index system was implemented to handicap vehicles so races would be equal. So now the object of Comp is have a fast car with a BIG brake pedal, Kinda sounds like bracket racing.

Too me the way to fix this is go Back to run more than .50 under anytime, Class Index gets evaluated week after event based on weather Conditions. Compare the weather for the run that set the original index to the weather of the run just set. This is the simple explanation, it would have to take many things into consideration,.

This would then have all rounds a race, not, DAMB, I went .60 under 1st round, I Better lift on this run because my opponent had to run only .50 under in his race so he now has a .10 advantage to take in the 2nd round. And qualifying as it is now shows who can run .70 under, their index should be hit.

We learned the in's and outs when our family car was able to run .72 under. We worried more about where to hit the brakes than making the car go faster.
 
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