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A Thought on the Countdown

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I know there was time to grumble about this when it started last year and we all know which "little guy" in the fuel categories was robbed this year, but consider this in the Pro Stock category:

By qualifying this weekend, Jeg wrapped up the championship. If they were still racing under the old points format, the Pro Stock championship would have gone down to the very last round of the year between Anderson and KJ. The final standings under the old format would have been:

1. Greg Anderson 1,672
2. Jeg Coughlin 1,657
3. Kurt Johnson 1,649

So much for creating excitement that didn't exist before.
 
The points system flat out ----- we all kniow but we cannot change it. Yes is Tim Wilkerson is the champ in funny car in are eyes but NHRA does'nt care. Greg Anderson had more wins this season than anyone out there he also got raw end of the deal. Chris Rivas should have been the champ also. NHRA should rethink the points system and not copy other race forms(sissy nascar) sorry had to put that iun there.:mad:
 
I'm not a fan at all of the countdown points system. as far as I'm concerned Matt Smith, Greg Anderson, and Tim Wilkerson are the real Champs this year.
 
I have never thought the countdown did anything for drag racing. It flat is wrong to crown a champ off of a few races, then ignore others whole year of hard work and success. How would comp look if it was operated in count down fashion. Drag racing has always been "King of the Hill":mad:
 
Well then I don`t belive that it would be fair if comp took the top five from each div and ran for the campionship. Or would that be a good idea ?
 
C Tanksley said:
Well then I don`t belive that it would be fair if comp took the top five from each div and ran for the campionship. Or would that be a good idea ?
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I like it, now that you put it in writing.....so that would be a 35 car field for the shootout or am I getting this?
 
Rick Troutner said:
I have never thought the countdown did anything for drag racing. It flat is wrong to crown a champ off of a few races, then ignore others whole year of hard work and success. How would comp look if it was operated in count down fashion. Drag racing has always been "King of the Hill":mad:
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Fletcher would still be the champ lol
 
IHRA is doing something similar to that next year. If you win a national event, or finish in the top 3 in your division, you get to go to the world finals and run for #1. You win that race, you are #1. The championship fields and the pros will be the world finals for IHRA next year.

Could be interesting to apply to the NHRA comp scene.
 
I belive that it would be great a racer could be the champion and run only 1 nat event. That way you would`nt have tow all over the country to race nat events . For points it would be fair for everbody and cut down on travel cost .
 
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I know a lot of racer would`nt go to nat events if there was no points .But you could add no index hitting at nat events this would bring them to the races .
 
C Tanksley said:
I know a lot of racer would`nt go to nat events if there was no points .But you could add no index hitting at nat events this would bring them to the races .
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Forget no index hitting I just rembered some cars can run .103 under their index . Next yeas probely .150 under there index . Bad idea .
 
C Tanksley It also opens the door to lower participation at National events that could lead to not even running comp. They could take the top division points leaders and do a run off at the sports nationals. Watch what you ask for.:eek:
 
Good Chicken

There are zero National Comp racers, that is , going to 24 events, including Fletch and Rampy, so it really isn't that big of a change. Leave the race quota the same, go to the National events close to home, like 90% already do, but you get a shot at the whole shindig, if you finish in the top 5 divisionally. The World Finals would truly be, just that....and the division races would take on a new level of importance, as they should. I like it, Charlie.
 
1 race?

Are you implying that someone could win "1" race and be declared the "champion"? A champion should be decided by season long points, not 1 race. Anyone could get lucky and win 1 race. That's wouldn't be fair.
 
It's crazy to take the points earned in the new format and apply it to the old format. That assumes that people race the same way independent of the points format. For some that may be true, but I doubt it's true for everyone.

As for us, let's leave the points system be.
 
The tragic irony of it all is that according to NHRA circa late 2006, the new championship format was designed to give someone like Tim Wilkerson his only real shot at a title. Sad.

And yes, Dave, I'm sure tuneups might have been different and certainly Pro Stock could've been a different ball game if it was the old format.

No one was going to catch Wilkerson or Matt Smith, though. Nobody.

And yes, if Comp would've had a Countdown format it would've been Fletcher at No. 1, probably Benham at No. 2 and maybe Martel at No. 3. Or maybe Biondo would've went to Pomona since he had won Reynolds.
 
Fast1 said:
Are you implying that someone could win "1" race and be declared the "champion"? A champion should be decided by season long points, not 1 race. Anyone could get lucky and win 1 race. That's wouldn't be fair.
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1 race no . The top 5 from each div ,then race at the end for 1 nat race the winner would be the champion . If the top 5 could not go then 6 could take his place . I belive this would bring more racers to div races . Most racers are still going to go to nat events for the big payouts . This is nothing new and would be a more fair way to pick a champion . Belive it or not most racers can`t travel as much as others .
 
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1 race no . The top 5 from each div ,then race at the end for 1 nat race the winner would be the champion . If the top 5 could not go then 6 could take his place . I belive this would bring more racers to div races . Most racers are still going to go to nat events for the big payouts . This is nothing new and would be a more fair way to pick a champion . Belive it or not most racers can`t travel as much as others .
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I hesitate to even respond to this because I think most people see how rediculous it is but.... ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!! A more fair way to pick a champion?? Take Aragona's year last year... you are telling me he would have had to go all the way to Pomona to race against the 3rd 4th and 5th best cars in each division to win the championship? No, he proved he was the best of 2007 long before that. One race should never determine the championship. In one breath you talk about cost of travel, and in the next breath you are sending 15 racers from division 1, 2 and 3 all the way to California? And essentially you are saying that you could win 1 race and win the whole thing. All you have to do it attend 5 points meets and do well enough to finish top 5.. then you go to Pomona and hope one of the rounds is run at night and you luck your way into a title. Bogus.
 
If it is true what you are saying .Then the NY Giants should not be the NFL pro football champion last year.They was clearly not the team that won the most games .
 
Countdown

Travel has always been ridiculous anyway. In most cases anyone chasing the championship has had to go west at the end of the year anyway. If for nothing else, to be close to the awards banquet.

I've always thought it was ass backward anyway. The season should end at the US nationals. We call it our biggest race, and it is more centrally located. Many stick and ball sports have seasons based over portions of two years why can't we.

Forget it... it would make sense. Never gonna happen!
 
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