We did`nt know what happen , we was told that we was being checked . Why are we being checked, we was checked same thing legal . They made us weigh and fuel check .I don`t know anything about the rules of a P/M . I never said anything about him it pissed me off that we got checked again that is all.
Congradulations to Lee Adkins, .770 under
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The knocks at the pro mod class always amazes me. Yes they do have a soft index or should say did have a soft index. That 80 under changed it by 2/10ths.
He would have won at 68 under which still means a big change but only .08 not .2. That being said judging a win at 220 mph, and lifting in time or to knock down your et by a tenth is not easy.
Pro Mods are part of Comp get used to it.
Their restriction to run in the GSA is based on grade points if you want any chance to run the class they need the Gr points. It is most likely the reason Adkins and others run the class. Having a huge payday helps (the only comp race that does (except for fighting for contingency) To have to wait a couple seconds and a full tree is not easy for those Pro mod guys, having the soft idex does make it a bit easier for dsure. But a .1 light is about as bad a light as you can get away with. His car based on et and mph he ran except for his second round loss means he could run a low teen at 230-233. That is still relatively competitive unless you have a 3/4 of a million dollar budget in the nitrous pro mod world.
Anything less and 6.0's are as good as it gets.
Don't dump on the Pro Mod guys. They are playing within the set out rules.
The only way you now see an 800 under now is with a 5.80 et.
He would have won at 68 under which still means a big change but only .08 not .2. That being said judging a win at 220 mph, and lifting in time or to knock down your et by a tenth is not easy.
Pro Mods are part of Comp get used to it.
Their restriction to run in the GSA is based on grade points if you want any chance to run the class they need the Gr points. It is most likely the reason Adkins and others run the class. Having a huge payday helps (the only comp race that does (except for fighting for contingency) To have to wait a couple seconds and a full tree is not easy for those Pro mod guys, having the soft idex does make it a bit easier for dsure. But a .1 light is about as bad a light as you can get away with. His car based on et and mph he ran except for his second round loss means he could run a low teen at 230-233. That is still relatively competitive unless you have a 3/4 of a million dollar budget in the nitrous pro mod world.
Anything less and 6.0's are as good as it gets.
Don't dump on the Pro Mod guys. They are playing within the set out rules.
The only way you now see an 800 under now is with a 5.80 et.
Are you kidding me? Tell me that he new to comp or tell me that he just can't drive the finish line because he is NOT a bracket racer or that he is new to comp, but don't tell me how hard it is to wait or lift at 220 or 230. Hell if he drives it the way it is supposed to be driven, he might never see 190. If that car gets down the track every run, which it seems too and with the right driver, it could EASILY be the 2011 comp world champ. It is somewhat embarrasing to have an .80 under car in comp and not win the race. But if he is new, I totally understand. If you were to put any great comp racer like Rampy, Biondo,(either one) Fletcher, Bourgeios, Carter, or Truble in that car without worring about index, I guarantee you they would win. Just my opinion.
Well I got to tell ya that was hard to see. We are picking up our new car from Haas this week, a purpose A/PM car. I have to say Lee put up some numbers I would of hoped to see a year ago but the horse we had just wouldn't do it.
I guess where my issue is on all the guys that say they are just coming to a comp race to test is fine but look around. We are here to stay. I will admit A/PM was not the toughest but also not the easiest. I always say we are only as good as the other guys in our class. We all know that our class is predicated on what the other guy does when we are at home watching comp. forum. You can beat this guy up or pat him on the back. He is a true racer like all of us no matter how we look at it.It will just make us work harder. Congrats on all of you at Belle Rose, you put on one hell of a race.
Steve, Roger, thank you for the oppurtunity.
Art Hodges
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If you can dream it, you can become it.
I guess where my issue is on all the guys that say they are just coming to a comp race to test is fine but look around. We are here to stay. I will admit A/PM was not the toughest but also not the easiest. I always say we are only as good as the other guys in our class. We all know that our class is predicated on what the other guy does when we are at home watching comp. forum. You can beat this guy up or pat him on the back. He is a true racer like all of us no matter how we look at it.It will just make us work harder. Congrats on all of you at Belle Rose, you put on one hell of a race.
Steve, Roger, thank you for the oppurtunity.
Art Hodges
If you can imagine it, you can achieve it
If you can dream it, you can become it.
A 1969 Cynergy Camaro, 825" Hemi, Same power plants as last year with some updates. We made some provisions in this car that I think will be better for comp than Pro Mod.
Unless your name is Manzo and you tune a clutch car consistently .05-.08 better than the closest converter.
If a guy shows up at a race. And runs bad fast and is clearly not a normal comp racer. Does anyone try to explain how things work or keep quiet and hope in index gets hit? Years ago there was a guy that had a AA/AT he was 1# 890 under and went 890 under on a first rd. Bye I ran into him later in the year asked why? he had no ideas what he was doing or what it ment.
Ya sorry meant .1 after the weekend. But he was hit .3 after round one.
A better question might be, why aren't some of the best drivers in Comp racing a top notch Pro mod, based on some of the replies they would go undefeated all year long.
He was playing in qualifying by the mph he ran in qualifying. The Different is once you get to the line against someone in elims, and it takes you to the 1200 foot mark to catch someone cause of your bad light, it is tough to fender when you have 30-50 mph on your competitor, ask anyone who bracket races and they will tell you it takes a number of runs before you get the timing figured out on that spread.
But that being said, a top comp driver should consider a nitrous pro mod or even a blown one.
Dean
A better question might be, why aren't some of the best drivers in Comp racing a top notch Pro mod, based on some of the replies they would go undefeated all year long.
He was playing in qualifying by the mph he ran in qualifying. The Different is once you get to the line against someone in elims, and it takes you to the 1200 foot mark to catch someone cause of your bad light, it is tough to fender when you have 30-50 mph on your competitor, ask anyone who bracket races and they will tell you it takes a number of runs before you get the timing figured out on that spread.
But that being said, a top comp driver should consider a nitrous pro mod or even a blown one.
Dean
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I would be willing to bet no P/M will win a comp race . A round yes but that is not much for a 500 th dollar car . NHRA needs to get a grip on all this bogus crap . Even in Stock and SS/S cars with blowers,some racers are selling out and quiting .Nhra has a class for P/M what is next not good enough for AF/C stick them in comp .
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Mr Tanksley,
I am adressing this to you. You are one guy that continues to bash this class and give negative statements like your last blog.
Before your time when the Pattersons, Nicken's, Kopp's & Maropulos saw the 4 & 6 cylinders coming in they opened there arms and said bring it on. It wasn't the cars that made them fast and sit on top, it was the people, the Arogona's, Browells & Ackerman's that busted there ass working on what they got, that's why they are sitting at the top. I applaud anyone who is willing to come to this class and participate.
This class is a tough arena to be in. we all know it could go away tomorrow and where do you end up, as for yourself a noncompetetive top dragster. I read this column everyday just one thing to get me thru this down sizing economy, don't mess it up for me.
I think you need to look at your own statement, if A/PM cannot win it just makes it easier for you.
Art Hodges
I am adressing this to you. You are one guy that continues to bash this class and give negative statements like your last blog.
Before your time when the Pattersons, Nicken's, Kopp's & Maropulos saw the 4 & 6 cylinders coming in they opened there arms and said bring it on. It wasn't the cars that made them fast and sit on top, it was the people, the Arogona's, Browells & Ackerman's that busted there ass working on what they got, that's why they are sitting at the top. I applaud anyone who is willing to come to this class and participate.
This class is a tough arena to be in. we all know it could go away tomorrow and where do you end up, as for yourself a noncompetetive top dragster. I read this column everyday just one thing to get me thru this down sizing economy, don't mess it up for me.
I think you need to look at your own statement, if A/PM cannot win it just makes it easier for you.
Art Hodges
You missed the whole point . The point is big hp cars running slower cars will take too much win stripe . Our car running 196 is hard must less 225 mph . I love P/M cars for guys like you that race comp all the time great .But when a guy tells you later that he was just testing got to me .It should have pissed you off worse than me because NHRA said that if he ran 80 under again they was going to take away 3 th. from the class .
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I've told some guys who have raced both top sportsman and comp that the A/PM is a good class to run in comp, but not an A/PM like the kind that run in the Get Screened America Pro-Mod Challenge. Those cars are running on he edge and it is just too difficult to get them to be consistent. As to what i think is the right combination to run A/PM in comp, hell if I saying that in public-the smart people such as Art Hodges can figure that out without my help and I'll be damned if I'm going to given any ideas to the less than smart people.
I don't think I miss understood. What you said is NHRA should get a grip on this bogus crap referring to A/PM in comp. I got to tell you I do not prefer dragsters but I can appreciate what guys like Browell and Kimbrough are doing. I would never make a statement that they should not let them in our class. Innovation is what this class is about. I grew up watching and dreaming of Pro Stock. I am getting tired of all the cars running and looking the same but I still admire everyone of them doing it.
Our class is about being different trying to go fast with all different types of combinations. So please Mr. Tanksley look around there is more people in this class than you.
Conclusion: My mom always told me "Before you open your mouth look around the room".
Art Hodges
P.S. I was very upset @ what Lee had done but like I tell my guys we can only control our own destiny.
Our class is about being different trying to go fast with all different types of combinations. So please Mr. Tanksley look around there is more people in this class than you.
Conclusion: My mom always told me "Before you open your mouth look around the room".
Art Hodges
P.S. I was very upset @ what Lee had done but like I tell my guys we can only control our own destiny.
C/D has been around for a long time in comp.I can`t ever rember comp without a C/D class . But i do know nhra P/M cars run in the 5 sec zone in nhra .I f they had a nhra c/d class that is where we would run .If he keeps comming and running comp that how fast he will have to go to get around our car .
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AMEN!!
And on that note, Charlie if you had that .04 index back you wouldn't have been running Adkins first round!
